Btw, shouldn't we do something about cheaters?

It doesn’t matter. It’s the same on each of them. I played on Xbox, now I play on Steam. Just as the rules are the same, so are the cheaters. The loophole is the same.

Of course I did. They didn’t reply. I can’t see who does this, since they won’t play me, you know. That’s the whole point :laughing: They only play with themselves to rank up… And I just wait dumb in the lobby watching them do so.

Gold membership can be shared with others… Different email addresses? Easy-peasy. That’s certainly not stopping them, neither do the developers.

I’d love to see an IP filter kinda thing, or anything really, that they dealing with it… Anything.

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I was just curious.

You’ve never witnessed a cheater? Yet you claim better placers than you must be cheating?
It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

No. That’s not what I’m saying. I don’t claim they cheat because they have a better score/rank (then I’d know who they are btw). What I’m saying is if you’re in the ranked heads-up lobby, you can see players time to time to appear at the same time, one of them is higher ranked, one of them is usually bronze or silver at most. Then the higher ranked one switches to the lower table where the other player’s waiting. They start a game. Then you see it all happen again a minute later. And they only play with each other. Not with anyone else.

When did you last play against a Silver player when you was Platinum, for example? Never, I suppose. Because it doesn’t worth the risk. It’s +10/-30 at least, if I’m not mistaken. But if your opponent is your second account, it certainly worths it. At least for them. It couldn’t even be more obvious than that. I’m shocked you’ve never seen this before. Maybe you don’t play heads-ups very often. Anyway, so I do witness them, it’s just I don’t know who they are exactly. But that doesn’t mean they don’t cheat.

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I never play H2H, nor do I play Ring games, so I’ll take your word for this happening.
Winning is secondary to my enjoying the game. As long as my chip total keeps going in a positive direction, I’ll keep playing

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Only Tournaments? Nice! Basically H2H is similar, but it’s faster. I like that one more. That is, it would be if more players took the trouble to play.

Personnel choice, what a concept!

I was talking about the cheaters though, of course.

I’ve personally never seen cheaters, but I do believe they exist. have you tried reporting their account(s) when you come across them?

Read back a little, if you like.

I might know the name of a cheater… “Fkvpn”. It’s a relatively new account, tourist outfit, tourist nickname, low level (around 40 maybe), and ranked Platinum. It’s not completely unusual of course, but… We played a ranked game, and I’m not sure he wanted to play. He might just entered the lobby and didn’t notice I was there. He clapped at the start of the match, he played risky, carelessly. Not the play you’d expect at this level.

Also, NO ONE plays with Platinum rank, except me. That was the first time I see anybody does that. Okay, maybe there are a few out there, but that’s alone suspicious enough. And immediately after our match, there was someone in the lobby cheating with Platinum rank, playing against only a Gold ranked player at lower tables.

Although it is not possible to identify these cheaters, but that’s my best guess so far!

I’m curious.
Pl ease identify the platform you’re playing on and the type of game and what action this player took that you think was cheating.

Steam, but I experienced the same on Xbox before as well (as I already mentioned before).

It’s happening in the ranked heads-up lobby (as mentioned before).

What makes me think he’s a cheater is literally in my message right before yours. Also, I check that profile on the leaderboards and it’s not even there. Super fishy.

Btw, it really amazes me how obviously you think I’m an idiot, while you don’t even try to pay attention to what I’ve already told you.

I don’t think you’re an idol, I just don’t think that level numbers have anything to do with playing poker.

I didn’t, not a single time ever said that “level numbers have anything to do with playing poker” or cheating or anything like that in particular. I’m glad that you don’t think I’m an idiot, at least. But what’s with this level number thing anyway? You came up with something similar before as well. I’ve never said anything about levels here. At all.

Any news? Will someone at least acknowledge or reject my point?

The farmers are not necessarily “cheating”, they’re just taking advantage of the rules of the system. It’s not always 2 xbox in one house, people work together and there are also “rank up” groups that will rank up the solos for a cut of the chips. What they are doing doesn’t affect much those who want to play for real either. In my experience waiting around hoping someone will play at the higher end isn’t worth the wait because there are not enough interested people. Banning the rank up crowd won’t convert those players to play it for real. If anything the ranked systems need some new tiers added to the top to make it more interesting. How about leave the 2-man 6-man as is and add a 9-man tournament ranked system that has higher rewards than the others for doing well there?

??? Farmers??

Farmers = The players farming chips and loot cases by doing Ranked head-head matches together and all-in the 100 buyin heads up for quick XP.

Finally someone knows what I’m talking about. Okay, farming is not harmful, but farming in a RANKED environment is not harmless in my opinion. It gives you a rank that someone else might works its ass out. It’s not funny. Watching others just ranking themselves up while you waiting like an idiot, because at least 10 times more people playing with themselves (or with someone from a group, I don’t even know what they’re doing) than folks who are willing to play for the win.

Also, I’m not completely unaffected by them, because somehow when I got matched with some of them, sometimes the game says: “The game not exists” when the game would start loading otherwise, and because of it I stuck at that screen. I can’t go back in the menu or anything. I actually have to close the game completely and restart it. And some of them seem to know about this and even mocks me by chasing me in the lobby to get us paired and to get me stuck in the game. I’m not sure, but it’s freaking outrageous. And again: these are supposed to be RANKED games. It’s a joke instead. Tell me one more game, where players use ranked games to farm (and clearly bypassing etiquette) and it’s okay there.

I don’t care if they were banned I’d still not have anyone to play. I don’t care. I’d rather want to see an empty lobby than a sh!thole. It seems you don’t get it. The two-person tournaments are not the same as the six-person. Not by a long shot. Creating a 9-person tournament system does not help this situation. I like the two-person format, because it’s shorter and gives you more chances to play. For me, the idea of even bigger tables are completely irrelevant. It doesn’t solve my problem.

I’m not alone it seems: Patch Notes - Oct. 5, 2022 - #7 by Theone_1